Riverboat dream - Robert Fulton

Re: The chatter

by tony g on Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:24 pm

•        Gus Who wrote: Prophecy ... That goes to insight  (seer) 
• It a gift, though those that have it study about it.  
• How can one be certain it's prophecy... Might be a better question. 
• The answer is ... That it is a feeling. (Unless of coarse, your told by "God" in waking Vision.. Like I saw "Twisted I Beam(s)" and I knew for "fact" that something was going to happen... That would start this ... Though I thought it was "soon" (I did not have the date of 911) ... It was always a feeling... (I also felt it would happen in the fall season, before November) 
• But since then, I been right and wrong on calling things. It's not science it goes to "communication" ... I guess people call it channeling... (Though I do know for fact that there is Both Good and Bad, as right and wrong sides) 
• It's like psychic ability in waking life, some people have them. There are degrees.

   You are indeed a sick person. Anyone can have visionary dreams but to claim prophecy is absolutely deplorable as it defies our Christian faith.

Re: The chatter

by Gus Who on Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:30 pm

Not if it is truth. How does it defies Christian Faith?If someone gets enough of them and tell tommorrows news today kind of thing then they should have a label that says they are prophetic, especially when one claims in the name of the one true "God" as many people get dreams that are prophetic. Though it's true many non Christian get these dreams. So it does not fall on one faith alone.
Though I don't want to be a part of your Christian Faith if the don't communicate through the Holy Spirit. When the fact is shown in the bible that one of the ways God communicates is through dreams and visions. I have heard many testimony of people claiming such visions and dreams that lead them to do things. (Both Good and Bad, But that goes into beliefs and religions)

Re: The chatter

by Naba-Daba-Doo! on Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:41pm

G Tony... maybe you should go to night school at Gus Who Prophetic Center for kids who can't see good.
Good writing Gus  those classes have really helped your reading/writing skills

I will admit it's hard to believe in some things unless they happen to you first hand. I was questioning prophecy
myself and got frustrated in trying to learn if God even used prophecy today as sometimes I thought maybe it was 
just hype to sell books and CD's. I was also tired of not understanding much if anything from some of my "spiritual dreams"

I had given up on all of it and angry saying God you'll have to prove it to me cause I don't know what's true anymore.

In the next day or two the News came out about Steve Irwin and how he died...
I totally got schooled........4 months prior I had a dream and I became Steve Irwin (had to look up his real name) I had only known him as the "crocodyl guy" In the dream I was swiming above a sting ray, it bucked up and stung me in the heart, I pulled it out as I came to the surface and heard someone yell "Steve" and I died  what I thought he was the crocodyle guy.

It's posted here in more detail under Steve Irwin but.....
if that isn't a prophetic dream.... what is?........... that's when I knew... "God still uses prophecy" and since then more
detailed prophetic dreams have come true. I don't know how else to better prove a spiritual realm when you are allowed to
transcend time and space......... I would not consider any of this if they weren't already in the Bible as abtainable
Jesus himself said "Greater things will you do"....... but like Gus says... belief comes in there somewhere...
or it might not even be shown to you.

Riverboat 

by Gus Who on Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:23 pm

 Naba- Doo - I have just been corrected as to my prophetic dreaming, I just woke from a dream .. . (I'm in my 30's  )
I just walked aboard an old style riverboat ... as I feel I am there for some kind of gathering... I see a couple couple people who seem to be schooled in this ability... as one talks about a mystic (gypsy maybe) woman who just walks on board, she mystically good looking a little younger than me, as I keep my distance and try listening in making small talk... trying to understand what is going on... I get the feeling that I am in a poker tournament of who's "ability" or something of that nature ... as different people come aboard, all kinds of cultures ... Chinese guy, Indian .. It dawns on me why I am there as i question Gazoo... the book says something about looking at what stock someone comes from... Family tree... I wake up (1:40 am  ) think mom/ dad , who there were ... 10 mins later  oh yeah "Robert Fulton" (comes from my mothers side of the family tree)

I kind of tire and going back to sleep, I think I have to get back to the casino boat... (Oh yeah Lady Luck, I wear shades 8- and my thinking cap to get tune in)  goes to west coast time
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Robert Fulton, Jr.

Robert Fulton

Born November 14, 1765

Little Britain, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania

Died February 24, 1815 (aged 49)

New York City

Nationality American

Spouse(s) Harriet Livingston

Children Robert, Julia, Mary, Cornelia

Parents Robert Fulton, Mary Smith

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Robert Fulton (November 14, 1765 – February 24, 1815) was an American engineer and inventor who is widely credited with developing the first commercially successful steamboat. In 1800, he was commissioned by Napoleon Bonaparte to design the Nautilus, which was the first practical submarine in history.[1] He is also credited with inventing some of the world's earliest naval torpedoes for use by the British Navy. [2]

Fulton became interested in steamboats in 1777 when he visited William Henry of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, who had earlier learned about James Watt's steam engine on a visit to England.

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1 Early life

2 Education and work

3 Posthumous honors

3.1 In popular culture

4 References

5 Publications

6 See also

7 External links

[edit]Early life

Fulton sculpture at the Brooklyn Museum

Robert Fulton was born on a farm in Little Britain, Pennsylvania, on November 14, 1765. He had at least three sisters--Isabella, Elizabeth, and Mary, and a younger brother, Abraham. His father, Robert Fulton, was born in Ireland and emigrated to Philadelphia where he married Mary Smith. The father moved the family to Lancaster, Pennsylvania where the younger Fulton attended a Quaker elementary school. Fulton showed an early interest in mechanical things. At the early age of 13, he invented paddle wheels to go alongside his father's fishing boat. He especially favored gunsmiths and even offered some suggestions that were adopted by the workmen. As a boy he built rockets and experimented with mercury and bullets. His friends nicknamed him “Quicksilver Bob.”[3]

He learned to sketch early on and by age 17 he decided to become an artist. His father, who had died when Robert was eight, had been a close friend to the father of painter Benjamin West. Fulton later met West in England and they became friends.[3]

Fulton stayed in Philadelphia for six years, where he painted portraits and landscapes, drew houses and machinery, and was able to send money home to help support his mother. In 1785 he bought a farm at Hopewell, Pennsylvania for £80 Sterling and moved his mother and family onto it. While in Philadelphia, he met Benjamin Franklin and other prominent Revolutionary War figures. At age 23 he decided to visit Europe.[3]

[edit]Education and work

A drawing of Fulton's invention Nautilus

He took several letters of introduction to Americans abroad from the individuals he had met in Philadelphia. He had already corresponded with Benjamin West, and West took Fulton into his home, where Fulton lived for several years. West had become well known and introduced Fulton to many others. Fulton gained many commissions painting portraits and landscapes, which allowed him to support himself, but he continually experimented with mechanical inventions.[3]

He published a pamphlet about canals and patented a dredging machine and several other inventions. In 1797 he went to Paris where his fame as an inventor was well known. In Paris, Fulton studied French, German, mathematics and chemistry. He began to design torpedoes and submarines. In Paris, Fulton met James Rumsey, who sat for a portrait in the studio of Benjamin West where Robert Fulton was an apprentice. Rumsey was an inventor from Virginia who ran his own first steamboat in Shepherdstown (now in West Virginia) in 1786. As early as 1793, Fulton proposed plans for steam-powered vessels to both the United States and British governments, and in England he met the Duke of Bridgewater, whose canal was used for trials of a steam tug, and who later ordered steam tugs from William Symington. Symington had successfully tried steamboats in 1788, and it seems probable that Fulton was aware of these developments. The first successful trial run of a steamboat had been made by inventor John Fitch on the Delaware River on August 22, 1787, in the presence of delegates from the Constitutional Convention. It was propelled by a bank of oars on either side of the boat. The following year Fitch launched a 60-foot (18 m) boat powered by a steam engine driving several stern mounted oars. These oars paddled in a manner similar to the motion of a swimming duck's feet. With this boat he carried up to thirty passengers on numerous round-trip voyages between Philadelphia and Burlington, New Jersey.

Fitch was granted a patent on August 26, 1791, after a battle with Rumsey, who had created a similar invention. Unfortunately the newly created Patent Commission did not award the broad monopoly patent that Fitch had asked for, but a patent of the modern kind, for the new design of Fitch's steamboat. It also awarded patents to Rumsey and John Stevens for their steamboat designs, and the loss of a monopoly caused many of Fitch's investors to leave his company. While his boats were mechanically successful, Fitch failed to pay sufficient attention to construction and operating costs and was unable to justify the economic benefits of steam navigation. It was Fulton who would turn Fitch's idea profitable decades later.